There's been a tension in the Apple community for a handful of years — because of the bad keyboards, the changing ports, App Store restrictions, enforced software signing in macOS, and more. Just recently I've seen people exploring Windows and Linux, including myself.

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I'm starting to wonder if Apple pushed things far enough that they're running off some of the die hards. Speaking for myself, the thought of using old Apple hardware (2015 and earlier) with Linux seems very appealing.

And the Framework laptop has me wondering if Apple hardware really needs to be part of the equation at all.

@mike First I’ve heard of this, seems like they’re hoping to bring some competition against hardware like Purism and System76.

@pimoore it’s such a great idea for a laptop — completely repairable and upgradable with documentation and the machine itself is actually pretty slick looking.

@mike You can clearly see who they got their design cues from, not that there’s anything wrong with that.

@mike I ran a 2011 or so Mac mini until this year with Linux. I only changed because the HDD chipset stopped working properly.

@souldessin I just retired my 2011 Mac Mini this past week — it was our home server for the past ten years.

@mike Definitely running Linux on Apple hardware has a much higher chance of working on older machines, with the obvious exception of running in a VM — though that has it’s own caveats like poor or lacking video acceleration. If I still had my old MBA I’d have put Linux back onto it for sure as its macOS support had come to an end, but I’m firmly in the iOS camp now.

I totally agree Apple has had stumbles, especially in their Mac lineup and software, and people are noticing.

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